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By KenB
#35013
Hard to imagine, I know, but SFKK has gone even further downhill, which is somewhat of an accomplishment.

They're removing Chang and shipping it somewhere unknown at this point. This follows the removal of Hellevator following it's accident, loss of the Dragster upcharge attraction, and the closing of the entire back of the park including their shoot-the-chutes (or was it rapids?), a flat or two, and the Twisted Twins woodies. This leaves them with the original SLC hang 'n' bang, a Schwarzkopf shuttle loop, some family coasters, and Thunder Run, which only runs one train.

This place was utterly craptastic in 2006 with all of the above there, aside from the Dragster ride. Sure, Chang's a standup so not the greatest of B&Ms, but it wasn't that bad, and like Mantis has a pretty interesting layout. Easily their best full-circuit steel coaster.

It should be interesting to see where this goes. SFGrAdv doesn't have a standup, and it would be their 5th B&M. SFA doesn't have a B&M and hasn't had anything new in forever, so it could work there. The one I keep hearing is SFGrAm, which has the first B&M standup Iron Wolf. I've heard various rumors there - that Chang would get floorless trains and Iron Wolf would stay, possibly with Chang's trains. Others are that Chang would replace iron Wolf, although not in the same location.

If Iron Wolf gets scrapped, wouldn't that be the first Beemer to have that happen? Of course it's the very first one, so I guess it'd be fitting. That'd leave the two Vortexes as the oldest ones running.
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By montumax
#35037
I read on some forum that this guy said that SFKK was losing their best coaster. Did they forget about Greezed Lightning?
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By Jay
#35040
If you guys thought that is strange La Ronde appears to be getting the old Astroworld SLC that sat near Great Escape for a few years. The thing that makes it strange is that it will be less 500 feet away from Vampire, the parks already existing Batman: The Ride clone.

http://www.rcdb.com/8662.htm

As for SFKK, I have always heard terrible things about it, but in my few visits there were never bad experiences. Nothing amazing sure, but it was nice for what it was. Twins/Thunder Run I enjoyed, Chang wasn't too bad, and of course how could you not love Greezed Lightnin'. But it's location always hurt it with barely any room to expand and The Damn Bridge (tm) making it look like some second class RollerCoaster Tycoon park. Should be interesting to see how the park fares, hopefully it doesn't become another Geauga Lake.
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By bgwfreak
#35050
If I didn't need about 2 credits there, I'd probably never go back now.

SFKK & SFA seem to be the step children of the chain.

If they aren't going to do something decent, they need to sell them in my opinion.
By KenB
#35067
The only thing I can figure is that SF thinks that the SLC is too "big" of a ride for some of the smaller parks - big in monetary terms, that is. Still, it would seem to make more sense to install it at one of those rather than a park that already has a B&M invert. Worse still is to install it right next to said Beemer.

And wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to just put Chang at SFA as-is? All of the SF Great America scenarios seem to be somewhat costly, since they can't simply remove Iron Wolf and put Chang in it's spot, and I can't imagine the rumored floorlesss conversion would be cheap either. At SFA they can plop it just about anywhere in that big field called Gotham, and have a somewhat unique ride for the area, with Shockwave at KD being the only other nearby standup.