[Grobble]

“You really don't get it & as a person with a MBA I don't have the patience to explain it to a person that knows essentially nothing, but has an ill informed opinion. ”

Thanks for blessing us with you’re presence then, LOL.

As someone who doesn’t care about your MBA it’s my informed opinion that you can eff right off with the attitude.

I do think it’s funny that now you have turned against Glitch, LOL.

GURL BYE.

Eldumbo returns. Your pure ignorance of business has been shown time and time again. I have "loyalty" to nobody, I am about facts. So, your I turned against somebody just shows your juvenile mindset.

[Grobble]

But on any one day where it is busy to the point that it's keeping people away

...then you have a highly successful business model that doesn't need changing.

Bingo, this guy doesn't know how a business works.

[uscbandfan]

Plus, personally as a season passholder, restricting Scarowinds to one visit per pass per season would potentially add value for me. Cull all the passholders out of the crowds, and I might be prompted to actually use my one visit.

I'd be down with that. Coming from 100 miles away, we only go one time a year anyway. Doing that would cull the people who are over-visiting and the lines might actually be manageable. Also for the people using it to extort the meal plan. Not that I'm dissing them... If I lived in the Fort Mill area, I'd get the meal plan and stop on my way home from work every day too. (and get a ride on Fury and Copperhead.) Would be VERY budget-saving.

[Edwardo]

“You really don't get it & as a person with a MBA I don't have the patience to explain it to a person that knows essentially nothing, but has an ill informed opinion. ”

Thanks for blessing us with you’re presence then, LOL.

As someone who doesn’t care about your MBA it’s my informed opinion that you can eff right off with the attitude.

I do think it’s funny that now you have turned against Glitch, LOL.

GURL BYE.

Eldumbo returns. You're pure ignorance of business has been shown time and time again. I have "loyalty" to nobody, I am about facts. So, you're tunred against somebody just shows your juvenile mindset.

You’re the one resorting to name calling. I don’t need to know how a business works when I know people making decisions. Give your facts and show proof of work or GTFO.

The fact that you use so many ad hominem attacks shows how juvenile your mindset is. And the fact that you’re demanding respect for having an MBA while dismissing others not knowing what they have is cute. I just think it’s hilarious that you think your MBA means something here.

[uscbandfan]

I'd suppose we've "made" our money on the meals and drinks.

I guess that depends on your point of view. You say you've "made money" but in the same breath you say you've "spent $1000". The latter is what Carowinds is concerned about. That's like the guy who came back from Vegas saying he won $500. He doesn't tell you that he gambled away $1000 getting there (a net loss).

You have the means and the opportunity to live close enough to go that often. If you did not have the season pass with the meal plans, would you have gone 25 times and eaten all that food? Most probably not. Looking at it THAT way, you haven't "made" money. You only "make" money when you would have made the same purchase anyway.

That's a concept most shoppers don't understand. They come back from the mall saying "I saved 50% on this $200 dress". That's only true if you were going to buy the dress anyway. Otherwise, the answer is no. The store just made good on their 50% discount advertisement to get you to the mall and they made $100. (and you probably bought something else while you were there and they sit back and smile.)

[Edwardo]

Never mind, he’s gone for 30 days lol.

He compared me to Trump as he selectively leaves off important parts of quotes, puffs his MBA up, talks down to others, and calls names.

Okay...

[BrianH1970]

The debate is moot since restricted access at the top tier is unlikely to go away anytime soon, if at all. The model these days, whether it's movie streaming plans or movie houses, is to give as much away as possible up front and then make money once you've paid.

Movie theaters don't get anything from ticket sales during the first couple weeks of a movie's release. Nearly all of their profit during that time period comes from overpriced concessions, which makes movie theaters glorified restaurants. How often do you hear people complain about the price of popcorn and a drink? Next time you go, look at how many people have popcorn and a drink. Regal is going to make a fortune in concessions when they roll out their monthly "any movie, any time, however many times you want" plan.

Panda Express, Chickie and Petes, Chik-fil-a, Cinnabon, or Starbucks...other concsessions...there is no way those places will want restricted access at any time during the year. You might not be able to tolerate the crowds but there's a massive amount of people who more than tolerate the crowds. They do it every night Scarowinds is open. And more importantly they pay obscene amounts of money for food and other goodies. It's why they put gift shops right at the exits of some rides, and there's always a stand for something to eat or drink a short walk no matter where you are.

[BrianH1970]

I'd be down with that. Coming from 100 miles away, we only go one time a year anyway.

And right there is why you cater to a season passholder. They'll get more money out of a season passholder in two visits than someone who goes once.

[Edwardo]

“You might not be able to tolerate the crowds but there's a massive amount of people who more than tolerate the crowds. They do it every night Scarowinds is open. And more importantly they pay obscene amounts of money for food and other goodies. It's why they put gift shops right at the exits of some rides, and there's always a stand for something to eat or drink a short walk no matter where you are.”

What I can or cannot tolerate is irrelevant.

All you have to do is look at Scary Farm. It’s become so popular that they now restrict all season pass levels. Fact.

If you or anyone else think that CF isn’t looking to do that once SCarowinds or any other park gets to a certain attendance point for the event, you’re crazy. THAT IS their business model in the chain...

[uscbandfan]

I'd be down with that. Coming from 100 miles away, we only go one time a year anyway.

And right there is why you cater to a season passholder. They'll get more money out of a season passholder in two visits than someone who goes once.

If I only went once a season, I wouldn't get the pass. Since we usually plan for 2 "dry" visits a season and 1 "wet" visit, we get the season pass. With the free water, we never buy drinks while we're there unless it's with an overpriced lunch which we try to avoid by stopping at McDonald's on the way in (or out depending on time of day). We go to Scarowinds and Winterfest only because it's included. If there was an up-charge for either, we'd stay home. One year, we did buy an ornament at Winterfest but usually try to avoid park spending.

Granted, we're probably not the norm as we try to stick to a budget but as I could see where people who walk in with passes and don't pay money to get in, probably find ways of letting the money they do have burn holes in their pockets once they're in the gate.

[Christopher Mallis]

It’s been a fun season, I’m a little buzzed right now but it’s been good I’m gonna keep my expectations in check for next season Just basic infrastructure work means a lot for a park like Carowinds still on its way dinos finally gone Blue Ridge chicken kinda went downhill but it may get better just need ketchup here’s a pic of fury i took last wel , also i love goldrusher, fifth best coaster at the park
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Oh well here’s another got lucky with timin
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Still enjoy going seeing familiar people , scarowinds ain’t added new haunt house in a while but guess these scare somes are the way of the future , if u follow me elsewhere ur prob tired of seeing same stuff but i know some oldies on here ain’t on insta or what not

I love goldrusher as well! It’s just pure fun and a night ride is the way to go. I hope they do some maintenance soon on it and touch the station up as this coaster sure could use some!

[dirkdiggler1992]

Oh wow what an embarrassing post I made last night lmao. Guess I was trying to lighten the mood a hair. Yeah Goldrusher and many mine trains are still pretty exciting rides for me.

[Glitch99]

Regal is going to make a fortune in concessions when they roll out their monthly "any movie, any time, however many times you want" plan.

Their expected (ie, average) use of that plan will be maybe two movies/week. They still have to pay the distributor for butts in the seats. If everyone who purchases that plan uses it daily, that plan will die a very quick and ugly death, like all such plans that have come before it.

By definition some people will always use an "unlimited" plan more than average. But when the overall average usage varies from what's expected, policy changes will soon follow. Carowinds expects a dining plan to be used 20 times/year (or pick whatever number) - some will use it more thn 20x, some less, but if overall the plans are used an average of 30 times, you can be sure they're looking at adjusting the plan/pricing.

[yawetag]

I'd suppose we've "made" our money on the meals and drinks.

I guess that depends on your point of view. You say you've "made money" but in the same breath you say you've "spent $1000". The latter is what Carowinds is concerned about. That's like the guy who came back from Vegas saying he won $500. He doesn't tell you that he gambled away $1000 getting there (a net loss).

You have the means and the opportunity to live close enough to go that often. If you did not have the season pass with the meal plans, would you have gone 25 times and eaten all that food? Most probably not. Looking at it THAT way, you haven't "made" money. You only "make" money when you would have made the same purchase anyway.

That's a concept most shoppers don't understand. They come back from the mall saying "I saved 50% on this $200 dress". That's only true if you were going to buy the dress anyway. Otherwise, the answer is no. The store just made good on their 50% discount advertisement to get you to the mall and they made $100. (and you probably bought something else while you were there and they sit back and smile.)

How about "The cost of the meal and drink plan at my current per-meal/drink cost is low enough that it was a great investment"? Or even "With the number of meals and drinks we've consumed while there has covered the cost we paid for the plan"?

No, I wouldn't have gone to Carowinds 25 times this year - I made a point to mention we'd have only gone once this year. But because we've gone that many times, the cost to us has become such that we felt it was worth the investment. Further, Carowinds has made more on us than we would have spent had we just gone the one time, which is why they don't necessarily care how many times we show up.

[Glitch99]

I'd suppose we've "made" our money on the meals and drinks.

I guess that depends on your point of view. You say you've "made money" but in the same breath you say you've "spent $1000". The latter is what Carowinds is concerned about. That's like the guy who came back from Vegas saying he won $500. He doesn't tell you that he gambled away $1000 getting there (a net loss).

You have the means and the opportunity to live close enough to go that often. If you did not have the season pass with the meal plans, would you have gone 25 times and eaten all that food? Most probably not. Looking at it THAT way, you haven't "made" money. You only "make" money when you would have made the same purchase anyway.

That's a concept most shoppers don't understand. They come back from the mall saying "I saved 50% on this $200 dress". That's only true if you were going to buy the dress anyway. Otherwise, the answer is no. The store just made good on their 50% discount advertisement to get you to the mall and they made $100. (and you probably bought something else while you were there and they sit back and smile.)

How about "The cost of the meal and drink plan at my current per-meal/drink cost is low enough that it was a great investment"? Or even "With the number of meals and drinks we've consumed while there has covered the cost we paid for the plan"?

No, I wouldn't have gone to Carowinds 25 times this year - I made a point to mention we'd have only gone once this year. But because we've gone that many times, the cost to us has become such that we felt it was worth the investment.

My season pass cost me $50. Because without paying $100 for the pass, I would've went to Carowinds once paying $50 for a ticket. In those terms, its a pure cost, no matter how good the value.

On the other hand, we have/will go 10 times during the year. Chances are whatever 10 things we would've done those 10 days instead of Carowinds would've cost more than $100 in total. So in those terms, the season pass saved me money.

Same with the meal plan. Had you not eaten at the park, would you have 1) gone out to eat somewhere, 2) cooked a decent dinner at home, or 3) just ate a $.25 package of Ramen. That answer is what determines if your meal plan represented a good value or not. And only you know the answer to that question. I like the All-day dining plan, because it keeps everyone fed through the day and eliminated the stop at McDonalds when leaving the park - which alone would cost $30+ anyways.