[TadTAz]

It came up a lot on Intimidator's page talking about trims, there are some different ways that speed is altered that I know of...

Cobra, the train is takin up the lift to differnt heights depending on load weight

Afterburn, we have mentiond that bunny hop may be to scrub off speed, I find it funny thou I always smile and get a floating on air kidish smile there, ha.

Intimidator may and Hurler yes you read that right HURLER uses trims. I am not sure when it got there, but hurler has one at the base of the drop before the first turn. (maybe to slow the train down to smooth out for the first turn?)

As for weather the coasters I time when I ride, cyclone and hurler (1 steel, 1 wood) today were both 4-6 seconds off the normal pace due to the coldness, it seemed like the coldest day of the operating season.

[Jonathan]

Unless I have just completely lost my mind, Hurler definitely does not have a trim at the bottom of the first drop, or anywhere else on the ride. Unless of course it was added sometime this season.

[coasterbruh]

i think he's right jon...

[Jonathan]

Yep, just saw the picture in the other thread. I guess now we can say that Cedar Fair has officially arrived at Carowinds.

[swampfox43]

^ good one Jonathan....

last time I rode Mean Streak (2004) there was a trim near the top of the first drop. Made a bad ride worse, imo.
Maybe someone should start a "next coaster to add a trim" poll....

I hope to heck it isn't Afterburn. I remember the accolades it received when it first opened. Many enthusiasts ranked it then, and still do, higher than Montu simply for the fact it has no mid-course brake. I'm not worried about them adding a MCB but I wouldn't be surprised to see a trim added in the future.

[chargercrazy]

As long as the Hurler doesn't turn into Mean Streak, everything will be okay. Mean Streak may be the worst coaster I have ever ridden.

[GriffonBoy69]

just so the OP knows, The bunny hill on Afterburn does not control the speed of the trains whatsoever. Also, Cobra rises to the same height every single cycle. The sensors that tell it to release never move position, so it cant exactly release anywhere except where it always releases.

[TadTAz]

hey i thought a hill that slowed the train down kinda meant it controled the speed, I don't mean that it can control the speed every single cycle but maybe its there so there is no trim,

we have mentiond that bunny hop may be to scrub off speed,

I don't know I didn't design the ride unforuntely, I wish I could lay claim to that thou.

The sensors don't have to move position on the ride as the train is still moving and once the sensor dectects the trains speed/location on the lift it can tell the lift run longer, shorter however its programed, hence dropping it from a different height. If you sit there and watch it and time it, its not always the same, now with that being said is it 20ft different? No. Just a little and I don't know maybe its just because its going up the lift a little slower because it was heavy and didn't make it as far on to the chain as the train before, again I didn't design the ride...

[GriffonBoy69]

On Cobra, there is a sensor most of the way up he lift hill. (lift 2) Once the train triggers that sensor the chain releases. Its nothing any more special than that. Any variance (if there is any) would be caused by a heavier train moving slower, once the chain releases then the train will reverse directions faster because it was moving forward slower. Nothing else to it.

For lift one, the cable lift has a metal piece inside the track that releases the train. Every time that the catch car hits that "Lever" for lack of other description, the train releases.


As for Afterburn, the hill does not control the speed of the ride. The ride goes faster with more weight on it. Also when the tracks are wet, and when it is colder outside (after the wheels and grease has had a chance to warm up). Those are the only factors that control the speed of Afterburn. It might seem like the hill controls the speed of the ride because it is a noticeably slower part of the ride, but I can assure you that there is no such speed control system in place.

[coasterguy99]

On Cobra, there is a sensor most of the way up he lift hill. (lift 2) Once the train triggers that sensor the chain releases. Its nothing any more special than that. Any variance (if there is any) would be caused by a heavier train moving slower, once the chain releases then the train will reverse directions faster because it was moving forward slower. Nothing else to it.

For lift one, the cable lift has a metal piece inside the track that releases the train. Every time that the catch car hits that "Lever" for lack of other description, the train releases.


As for Afterburn, the hill does not control the speed of the ride. The ride goes faster with more weight on it. Also when the tracks are wet, and when it is colder outside (after the wheels and grease has had a chance to warm up). Those are the only factors that control the speed of Afterburn. It might seem like the hill controls the speed of the ride because it is a noticeably slower part of the ride, but I can assure you that there is no such speed control system in place.

Thank you sir, also there is the same "Lever" at the bottom to drop the catch car on the back of the train. I can also agree that that the sensors on lift two as soon as the front car passes the lower sensor the chain drop and the train goes backwards, if the train is full it will do the exact same thing. The top sensor is there as a back up if the train passes the top sensor the ride is automaticly e-stopped. The train is always "dropped" at the same location on both hills regardless of weight, temp., or weather.

[TadTAz]

I was wrong sorry.

I should have looked into it more with a little more reliable means of information, but hey at least somebody learned something today, the world can now sleep.

[pb3176]

if not mistaken the bottom of the loop has a brake run that slows the train down when it is going forward but that would not do anything but keep teh train from advancing to far on teh 2nd incline.

[TadTAz]

Its not a trim, thats just there for e-brakes and roll backs

[GriffonBoy69]

^ What he said, if you watch them they open before the train comes through.

[sccoasterbear]

I have just read how they have destroyed the Beast, and I hate to see perfection messed with. No air time on one of the best is just plain wrong.