General Carowinds discussion

Are there enough trees at Carowinds?

Yes, there are enough trees at Carowinds.
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10%
No, Carowinds could use more trees.
32
82%
I don't care about the number of trees at Carowinds.
3
8%
By chunkyskunk
#49095
Being one of those who has been around since the beginning of the park and being a bit of a ride traditionalist and historian, I would welcome more trees, more flowers and more water. I love BGW and Dollywood for some or all of those reasons. Then again I would love to see the sky ride, the monorail and the train back as well. This is about trees and not rides so I vote no, the park does not have enough trees.
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By Chris
#49098
I'm not going to vote either way because I actually think it's not *too* bad but I *always* welcome more trees.
By Carowindsman
#49104
I heard that wood we lost is being built into our wooden coaster lol. But seriously I feel we need a little bit more
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By Wormy
#49107
CarowindsPR? Bryn? Bart? Bueller? Uncle Jerry? Here's your answer. To be fair though, those sweetgums have gotta go. :twisted:

Anything to divert us from the wishlist thread. Sometimes you just have to throw your head back and laugh.
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By AMartin777
#49111
Imagineer - Chris Beatty on new Fantasy Land expansion at WDW (Quote from www.insidethemagic.net):

"One of the most important design elements Beatty emphasized was that New Fantasyland is intended to be a place for guests to enjoy, even when they’re not riding a ride, seeing a show, or meeting a character. A forest of trees will be brought into the area and will bloom throughout the year, adding lots of shade and comfortable areas notably absent from the existing Fantasy Land."

http://www.insidethemagic.net/2012/04/construction-tour-of-new-fantasyland-with-imagineer-chris-beatty-dishing-new-details-on-walt-disney-world-expansion/
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By Jonathan
#49112
Every park could use more trees, but especially Carowinds.

Unless you're Bart "Trees block the view of the rides" Kinzel.
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By swampfox43
#49131
When looking at the park from above in this 2011 aerial photo, we do have a fairly nice tree canopy. Especially when you compare it to this 1973 Carowinds photo: http://www.carowindsearlyyears.com/caro_air1973.jpg
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By AMartin777
#49226
Your right Ken, that photo does show Caro as having some growth, especially compared to the opening year of course. However, the trees that are there lie in the perimeter areas in most cases and don't provide as much shade where it's really needed (lines, paths etc.). Pictures of the park from the mid years of the late 80s and 90s are certainly just as telling as the park lost enormous amounts of growth with the removal of the island and log flume. That additional loss of growth was unnecessary in my opinion. Sure, it made things easier for construction but that speaks to my issue with it. Recently, on a trip to Knoebels amusement park, I snapped a picture:

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This image shows a tree that was growing in a location where the Carosel building is constructed. They actually built the covering AROUND the tree. This is a clear example of a park (company) that takes the effort to include the natural surroundings in its design. I don't see why the vast removal of trees for construction is necessary in every case and at the least, some effort should be made to return them when construction is complete.

Look at this arial photo:

http://www.virtualbirdseye.com/2008/05/01/cedar-fairs-carowinds-theme-park-aerial-and-birds-eye-views/

From this overhead perspective, the trees in Caro look very sparse indeed. Of course, different views are going to vary with angle, time of year, etc. and I think this is an excellent example of that.

My issue with most "large corporate" parks is not that they have zero trees and other foliage in their design, my issue is with the mindset of those making decisions. The idea that trees and other features (water for example and we know what Caro has lost in that department) are a secondary or even remote afterthought to overall design is what bothers me. Comfortable guests make happy guests. Happy guests come to your park more often and spend more money. it's a win-win to use a cliche.
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By AMartin777
#49255
Ok, after my trip to Caro yesterday, I must admit that to a great extent I am wrong. There are more trees and shady areas than I was giving the park credit for. I made a special point of paying attention to the tree coverage while walking around yesterday and actually found several relatively well shaded areas in the park. Funny how you don't really notice these things over many trips until you really start paying attention.

With that being said, I still think the loss of trees from the log flume and island has had a big effect on the park and the mindset still needs to be in check. I still think we could use more coverage in the park and building rides should not always necessitate stripping the land bare before starting construction.

It's clear the recent trip up north spoiled me in the natural landscaping department. :)
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By pproteinc
#49257
swampfox43 wrote:When looking at the park from above in this 2011 aerial photo, we do have a fairly nice tree canopy. Especially when you compare it to this 1973 Carowinds photo: http://www.carowindsearlyyears.com/caro_air1973.jpg


Looking at the 1937 arieal view i wish carowinds purchased all of the land this visible in that picture that park wouldve been close to the same size as KI or even SSMM but now we got TJMAX and all the other corprate office taking up land and stuff humph lol