General Carowinds discussion
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By coasterbruh
#71457
I see an increase in demand, not supply. The park probably not offer more fast pass plus (supply) because more people want them(demand). They would take advantage of the demand and charge more to maximize the profit of the supply. If they made the supply more, what would be the point of the regular if everyone can get the plus?
By Edwardo
#71460
RollerBee wrote:It would still be increase. Either over the numbers of rides available last year or the number of cycles possible on the FLP than last year. The only ways supply could go down is if they took a ride off, limited the number of passes sold or otherwise slowed the number of cycles possible.

So yes I understand Supply & Demand, try again Eddie.


OH. MYGAWD.

I don't know of anyway to say any of this without coming across as rude and condescending, so here goes:

A) Did you graduate high school? I ask that seriously.
B) You're, what, a school bus driver? And before that you worked at Carowinds? Until I went back to work for the government, I spent several years as a marketing executive where my career literally revolved around Supply & Demand. I'm confident I know more about it than you, and by your arguments, you don't know what you're talking about.

You're trying to argue that the park has more capacity in a conversation about Fastlane. You're not bringing a knife to a gun fight, you're bringing a gun, you just don't understand what it is or how to pull the trigger.

I dumbed down my explanation of how this is supply and demand, and I'll go further, but if you don't understand it, I can't help you. At this point I don't know if you really don't understand, or are, as Jarvis has said, just being antagonistic for the sake of being antagonistic.

Yes. Park capacity is increasing. In several ways. They're adding 2 new rides and completely redesigning the front gate to get people in faster. So that increases the park's capacity.

But we're talking about Fastlane. Unlike Qbot or Fastpasses (Systems of virtual queuing/queue management), Fastlane is a premium line cutting product. Maybe you don't know this, but Cedar Fair limits the amount of Fastlanes available on any given day. They also limit even more the Fastlane Plus, which is a higher tier product.

So the company artificially limits the supply of Fastlanes, based on popularity of rides, wait times of rides, and attendance projections. Fastlane has a set supply. Rides can only given a set amount of rides.

Still with me?

Now, Fastlane prices fluctuate based on attendance projections. The busier the park is expected to be, the higher the price. When demand for the set amount of Fastlanes available is likely to be higher, it costs more, because it will be in more demand, due to longer lines, which come from higher attendance.

Now, do you understand that? All of this is from actual press releases and conference calls that have come from the company, so argue with it all you want, this is what the company believes, based on their research.

Okay, at each park, rides with the expected longest lines (Due to popularity, or in the case of Nightwing, loading & unloading times) are put on Fastlane Plus, a higher tier, and more expensive. So, because these particular rides are in higher demand, they cost more to get your supply (ride) than, say, waiting in line (which is included with basic admission), or not riding at all.

The conversation was about Fastlane Plus, which I pointed out was a direct result of supply and demand.

Your overall capacity comment has nothing to do with the conversation. Yes, park capacity goes up. But the individual rides can only give a finite amount of rides. Therefore, Fastlane, which is a premium service, covers most rides in the park, and lets you skip the line, wait in a much shorter line, and ride faster.

But because certain rides are in higher demand, and likely to have longer lines, the park charges you even more to add these to your Fastlane because they're in demand, and people are willing to pay even more just to not wait in line.

So, you're really going to try and argue with that? Everything I've said here is based on the basic concept of supply & demand, a proven economic model, and information from the company, which has the research to back it up.

But, go ahead. I'd love to hear your argument as to why the company and economics are wrong.
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By Koallinbear
#71463
CodyH3333 wrote:
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Brruhhh.. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ok so back to the Other 2015 changes and the Transgender toilet question..... :|
By Edwardo
#71464
If Carowinds isn't in the city limits, I dont see how it would affect the park. IIRC it's the city council making the decision, not the county commission.
By RollerBee
#71466
3 rides(this year) vs 2(last year)
Never said anything about park capacity.
You mentioned ride capacity, with three rides on FLP vs 2, that is an increase in capacity.
I will admit that I forgot that the park limits FLP sold.
My thinking was by adding a Fury without removing Intimidator or Nighthawk, that would give more value to FLP. Never said anything about Cedar Fair or its research being wrong.
However I still see no decrease of the supply unless Carowinds lowers the limit of available passes. Unless Carowinds increases the limit of fast pass plus sold then the supply of FLP stays the same. Therefore the logical assumption is that Carowinds will increase the price of FLP. Which by the way, does anyone know if they did or not?

Yes I passed High School. Yes, I am a School bus driver. But I also passed Business Adminstration Classes in college.
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By coasterbruh
#71467
I'm not sure if many here wanna touch transgender toilets for it can turn pretty messy... :oops:
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By CarowindsCentral
#71472
tylerSC wrote:Regarding the new bathrooms, will Carowinds be impacted by this transgender toilet issue going on in Charlotte?

Oh man, time to see what users I have to put on my foes list. :think:
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By coasterbruh
#71476
tarheel1231 wrote:^ It's a urinal you can sit in.

By RollerBee
#71478
They started laying Pavers on the North Carolina side of the Circular plaza today. Also retaining walls were added on the walk way to and from the bridge. 3 to 4 more weeks and I can see this in person!
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