General Carowinds discussion
By Dukeis#1
#8302
From <a href='http://www.smokymountainnews.com/issues/10_04/10_06_04/fr_group_ghost_town.html' target='_blank'>Smoky Mountain News.com</a>

A group of business leaders in Maggie Valley has formed a non-profit corporation dedicated to reopening Ghost Town, an amusement park that served as a premier tourist attraction in Western North Carolina for four decades.

The non-profit group is seeking more than $70,000 in grants and private funds to develop a business plan for the old theme park in the hopes of attracting a buyer. If a buyer doesn’t surface, leaders of the group hope to buy and operate the attraction themselves, switching the Old West motif for an Appalachian and Cherokee cultural theme.

“The plan is to get the doors reopen by any means,” said Wade Reece, operator of Quality Inn and leader of the new non-profit called GHOST, or Greater Haywood Opportunities for Supporting Tourism.

The park drew tens of thousands of visitors a week during its heyday in the 1970s and 1980s. After a decade of gradual decline in the 1990s — due both to aging infrastructure and an aging owner/operator — Ghost Town closed two years ago. Businesses in Maggie Valley are suffering from lost revenue, scaling back employees, and in some cases closing.

“Every weekend I get 20 or 30 people who come up to the front desk and ask what time Ghost Town opens,” said Reece. Upset families pledge not to return to Maggie. Every lodging, restaurant and shop owner in Maggie Valley shares a similar story.

“Things are not good in Maggie Valley,” Reece said. Reece said it is “imperative” Ghost Town reopen.

Tammy Brown, public relations director of Cataloochee Ski Area who is involved in the effort, said reopening Ghost Town is not just a Maggie Valley priority.

“Everybody in the region will benefit,” Brown said. “We didn’t want to be sitting here in June of next year thinking about why we didn’t do something.”

The group has been lobbying leaders in economic development circles both regionally and statewide. Efforts to reopen Ghost Town deserve the same assistance and incentives that are traditionally granted to the manufacturing industry, the group says.

To legitimize its claims, the GHOST is conducting an economic impact study in conjunction with the business plan. The study will show the ripple effect throughout the region’s economy if Ghost Town stays closed.

Ideally, the business plan and due diligence would show a prospective buyer that buying and reopening Ghost Town is a viable and lucrative proposition. The business plan will calculate the amount of repairs required to get the old rides safe and functional and other start-up costs necessary to get the park open. The plan will also project revenue and number of visitors over the next five years. Reece said GHOST would then be able to hand a private investor the plan, along with due diligence such as surveys and other legwork.

If that doesn’t work, GHOST will try to raise funds through grants and private donations and open the theme park as a regional cooperative effort. The economic impact study being conducted in conjunction with the business plan will hopefully inspire the region to rally behind the cause, Reece and Brown said.

“We might buy it, we might assist in buying it. Right now, we are doing the due diligence,” Reece said.

If GHOST ultimately buys and runs the amusement park as a non-profit, all the money generated by the park would be returned to the community in the form of promoting Haywood County, Reece said. Reece said several private business owners are willing to invest in the project and many others are willing to donate money to the cause as their business success hinges on it.

GHOST is seeking economic development funds from the North Carolina Rural Center and Advantage West to conduct the economic study and business plan. Advantage West is a regional economic development organization that primarily focuses on manufacturing. The group is also exploring grants or other assistance from the Golden Leaf Foundation and the Haywood Advancement Foundation.

Among those GHOST has consulted with about the project is the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, the Western Carolina University Center for Regional Development, the Haywood County Economic Development Commission, the regional tourism cooperative Smoky Mountain Host, and county attorney Chip Killian who is a General Assembly lobbyist.

Reece and Brown said GHOST’s plan could be compared to the acquisition of the old Dayco manufacturing site by Haywood Advancement Foundation. Haywood Advancement Foundation is a non-profit dedicated to creating jobs in Haywood County, traditionally through recruitment and support of manufacturing industry. The group received $1.3 million in local tax dollars from the county and town of Waynesville to buy the old Dayco plant so it could be marketed. The old plant once employed more than 1,000 people but was sitting idle in private hands.

Haywood Advancement spent two years trying to recruit a manufacturing industry to operate the plant, but realized there were no takers in today’s new economy. Now a deal is pending with a national retail center developer. Whether Haywood Advancement will return the county’s and town’s tax money upon selling the site is still a matter of debate.

R.B. Coburn, 84, started Ghost Town in 1960 and ran it for most of the 42 years it was in business. Coburn was trying to sell the park for several years while it was still in operation. The park comprises 250 acres. Coburn was initially seeking $8 million, but it is unknown whether he has lowered the price.

Prospective buyers this time last year included a resort real estate developer, the owner of Great Smoky Mountains Railroad and two local politicians and hotel owners — Mayor Jo Pinter and Alderwoman Linda Taylor — wanting to create a religious theme park. Both Al Harper of Great Smoky Mountains Railroad and Pinter and Taylor are supportive of the GHOST effort, according to Brown.


I do hope they get this quirky little park back open. It's been a landmark in the area since the 60s.
By RollerBee
#8303
I have heard the park's rides are beyond repair, and the Red Devil failed state inspections.
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By wdwspider
#8312
I salute their endeavors and hope they find a means to "re-invent" and re-open the park. There is huge potential to have a once again "unique" and exciting park in the sky. Sure, it doesn't need to try and be a major competitor park, but it is a huge draw for locals and the occasional passer-by looking for something different. Plus, it's a historical landmark that should be preserved rather than forgotten.
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By swampfox43
#8313
Thanks for that link Duke. I am excited to know there is still hope for Ghost Town. There is huge potential for this quaint little park in the sky. I have fond memories of the old Wild Mouse back in the 70's and even had some good times on the Red Devil. It's certainly a unique attraction worth preserving.
By coastermom2
#8314
Thank you for posting this information about Ghost Town. Being originally from Asheville, we used to go to Ghost Town when I was a young child. On a recent tubing trip to Deep Creek in Bryson City with my kids, I went back through Maggie Valley and pulled over so my kids could see the remains of the park (the chair lift and cable car up the side of the mountain has always fascinated me) and we stopped again a little further down the road so we could look up and see the Sea Dragon still up on the mountain top. I told them what I could remember about it.
Oh, I do wish someone will do something clever with this park. It was heartbreaking to see the for sale signs all around the entrance of this very unique place. Keep us posted.
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By bgwfreak
#8315
I also am glad to see them stepping up and trying to save the park.

If only someone did that Miracle Strip... :(

The only thing I do not miss is their dumb commercials. "the most unique coaster in the world!" Yeah right. :rolleyes:
By carowindsfreak13
#8316
If the park reopens it needs a major fixup and maybe a big wooden.
By RollerBee
#8320
While I do not have first hand knowledge, I do not think they are beyond repair, but do need work, mostly on the safety front. The park was open and rides were running in 2002, so I do not think that two years of sitting idle could have resulted in too much decline.

The major problem was the sky tram that leads to the park. There is a service road that leads to the mountain top park, but it was not originally built to handle or accommodate tourism traffic as a main entrance into the park. So visitors only access to the park was by a sky tram.

The problem was the sky tram broke. In 2002, it stalled twice within a few months, leaving visitors stranded in their chair lifts halfway up the mountain for up to six hours while they were rescued by rescue workers. The state at that point shut the sky tram/chair lift down, and there was no way for the visitors to get to the park. The then 82-year-old owner, already looking to get out, didn’t want to spend the money to repair/replace the tram.

The main reason the park has been sitting idle for so long is the owner, R.B. Coburn, is asking what many consider to be too much — $6 million last I heard. He is old and has spent his whole life on top of the mountain living in his own creation — “Ghost Town land” — and maybe in some ways thinks it is worth more than it is. I think the non-profit hopes to absorb some of the costs associated with buying/reopening the park in order to bring the price down to a level that a private corporation/investor thinks is reasonable and feasible.
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Ok, RCDB says "On 7/6/2002 the Red Devil was closed for maintenance. There was scaffolding up and work was being done on some of the larger supports. The Red Devil is thought not have operated for the remainder of the season. The following 2003 season the park never opened and in 2004 it was announced the park was for sale." So the Red Devil did NOT operate for over half the season, this there for shows that there is more money needed to rebuild the park, than it is worth. Also, the pictures on RCDB show the coaster but no Train.
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By coasterbruh
#8321
Andddd...who are you quoting......
By Dukeis#1
#8324
Dukeis#1 wrote: switching the Old West motif for an Appalachian and Cherokee cultural theme

If they do get it back open(which I doubt), I think they should keep the Wild West theming. That is what the park is known for, anyway. Dollywood on the other side of the Smokies has pretty much coverd the mountain culture stuff. I doubt whatever these people plan to do could top what DW has done.

I really don't think there is much evidence that the Red Devil operated regularly after 1997. Most of the TRs after around that point say that the ride was closed, or most of the seats were roped off. I think it originally had two trains but the park cannibalized one for parts when business started to decline.

Things most certainly peaked for GT in the late 80s. Then Dollywood started expanding rapidly and the Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area took over Cherokee's role as the high tourism area.
By coasterdude89
#8339
Wow. 250 acres. They could really have a big park, even though it is on a mountain. If it were to reopen, and be totally hauled over (not tearing down things etc..) but adding new rides and fixing up others. And if they expanded it, they could make it into a nice park.
By LP_Reanimator
#8439
Awesome, never been to Ghost Town, but it's cool that they're tryin to save it.

Also, how do ya like my signature?
By carowindsfreak13
#8446
I always wanted to go and went past maggie valley twice but didn't stop.
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By montumax
#8463
carowindsfreak13 wrote: I always wanted to go and went pasted maggie valley twice but didn't stop.

Wow. That was a lot of paste. Is it still stuck? :)
By carowindsfreak13
#8468
Sorry Fixed it.^^^^^^^^^^^^