[Jarsh]

^That's because the trims grab based on how quickly the train has gone through the course up until that point. They are there for more consistent intervals, and I don't really know if there's any more reasoning behind it. I think maybe they are there to keep the train from overshooting the brakes (I've heard that SFOG had a problem with Goliath doing that when it first opened), but I really don't know.

You're *kinda* right... The trims don't grab based on how quickly the train has done through the course, but how fast it's going at the moment right before the trim. There are speed sensors right before the trims that read the speed on the train and adjust the trim brake as necessary to control the speed of the train. That's the reason that on colder days (and in the mornings) the trims aren't even used and then as the wheels warm up and the train speeds up the trims tend to hit. And on really hot days, the trims will hit hard if the train is going real fast.

As far as B&M's hypers overshooting the brakes, I don't see how that's possible on the newer hypers because they have magnetic trims before the pinch brakes and those magnetic trims slow the train enough that the pinch brakes can easily stop the train without exerting much force.

[Skycoastin Steve]

^Yeah, with the overshooting the brakes, that's only what I heard kind of in passing about Goliath. Not entirely sure if it's true, but the person who was telling me about it was fairly knowledgeable, so who knows.

[chargercrazy]

These things don't go together like those handy dandy little Knex models.

Umm, they kinda do. The steel coasters anyway. They are designed and manufactured with this in mind.

[Skycoastin Steve]

^You realize all the extra work that goes in besides putting the structure together? If it was as easy as building the ride, we'd just have million dollar lawn ornaments. There's electric work, programming work for the entire ride to run like it's supposed to, censors have to be put in and synced up, etc. These things don't run on batteries and rubber bands.

[RiDeWaRrIoR]

hmmmm how does brakes have anything to do with STR

[coasterbruh]

Personally I dont care if this thing is delayed or scraped at all...personally.

And yeah jarsh, I agree with you on the intamin thing. Their coasters seem to go to reprofiling more often than any other coaster company out there other than wooden coasters. Adding supports, adding trims (which is totally different to me than a coaster designed with trims in the first place) removing inversions...etc.

[Blue Moon]

As of two minutes ago on the Cedar Point facebook fan page, they wrote that Shoot the Rapids will not be opening this weekend. No opening date has been given.

Cedar Point has an official update on Shoot the Rapids. The ride will not open this weekend as planned. Our preopening procedures are taking longer than expected, but we anticipate it will open soon. We apologize for the delay, and we'll let you know as soon as it's open.

[coasterbruh]

go figure...it is an intamin...if it were B&M it would be open...but trimmed to death! lol

[KenB]

^ Yeah, not like the new Intamins get trimmed or anything

[coasterbruh]

"we shoulda went with Mack"
-Dick kintzel-

[cwgator]

I was looking up to see if the ride opened and found it hasn't. This was published last week in the Toledo Blade:

Article published June 08, 2010
Better-fitting boats ordered for Cedar Point water ride
BLADE STAFF

SANDUSKY - Cedar Point's new $10.5 million water coaster, Shoot the Rapids, has been delayed because its boats "weren't engineered right, and didn't fit the flume," Cedar Fair LP Chief Executive Dick Kinzel said yesterday.

Speaking to The Blade after the annual shareholders meeting, he said he expects the ride to open within weeks, and the company that made the boats is working around the clock to get them done.

"It's an engineering problem," Mr. Kinzel said. "We're really sorry it didn't get open on time, but these are prototypes, and we're not going to open anything until it meets all of our safety requirements and also comfort levels for our guests."

The ride was designed and built by IntaRide LLC of Glen Burnie, Md., a division of roller coaster giant Intamin AG of Switzerland. The 2,100-foot-long ride uses 10-passenger boats and follows a course through a wooded area that includes encounters with surprise water elements, special effects, and a 45-degree drop.

"The ride manufacturer, he put it together and he built the flume, and he contracted out the boats. And when the boats came in to meet the trough, they didn't fit," Mr. Kinzel said. "The boats were too long - they weren't engineered right. They didn't fit the flume, and we've had problems with it ever since."

Mr. Kinzel said workers for the contractor that constructed the boats "are working three shifts" to modify the watercraft, and those modifications should be completed soon.
"It won't be [the whole season]. I just don't want to put a date on it," he said.


- Larry P. Vellequette

Really nothing new, just they still don't have a date yet when they will open other than "within weeks".

[KenB]

The ride will be open by summer - which summer remains to be seen.

Intamin 2010 - bringing the LULZ to a Cedar Fair park near you.

[cwgator]

As long as Intamin 2011 doesn't have a repeat at BGT (if they indeed get an Intamin that is...) i'm good...lol

[Blue Moon]

Cedar Point is planning on opening Shoot the Rapids on Saturday.

[chargercrazy]

^You realize all the extra work that goes in besides putting the structure together? If it was as easy as building the ride, we'd just have million dollar lawn ornaments. There's electric work, programming work for the entire ride to run like it's supposed to, censors have to be put in and synced up, etc. These things don't run on batteries and rubber bands.

I was only talking about how the track piece are put together. I realize all of that extra stuff has to take place too. Don't get your panties in a wad