[sccoasterbear]

Why is the pad for the ride op so far back from the actual pad? And for perspective that 8’ table when you zoom in shows the que is a little bigger than it first appears imo. And I wonder if they will shorten the cycle like they did with all of the county’s fair rides to keep the lines moving.

[Hunter Blackburn]

Is it true that silver dollar city owns the right to the time traveler style Mack Spinner model? If so that throws the spinner argument out the window

[Chris]

Is it true that silver dollar city owns the right to the time traveler style Mack Spinner model? If so that throws the spinner argument out the window

How can a park own the rights to a manufacturer's design?

[Hunter Blackburn]

Is it true that silver dollar city owns the right to the time traveler style Mack Spinner model? If so that throws the spinner argument out the window

How can a park own the rights to a manufacturer's design?

sdc has an exclusive contract on the spinning coaster the rep of Mack rides said so during the post show of the time traveler announcement

[Grobble]

Is it true that silver dollar city owns the right to the time traveler style Mack Spinner model? If so that throws the spinner argument out the window

How can a park own the rights to a manufacturer's design?

There are often clauses written in these deals to protect exclusivity and the major investment by the park. Busch Gardens had a clause where B&M could not build any dives in the US for a specified number of years. The word is SDC did that with the Mack Spinner. Usually these clauses are more like you can't contract to build with a competitor within a certain radius.

[Cameron]

Well that's exciting news if true. Much rather have traditional trains.

[RollerBee]

Supposedly that was why KI(CP) and KD(BGW) couldn’t buy B&M coasters but Carowinds could.

Now explain Dominator At Geauga Lake.

[Glitch99]

Is it true that silver dollar city owns the right to the time traveler style Mack Spinner model? If so that throws the spinner argument out the window

How can a park own the rights to a manufacturer's design?

A roller coaster is like a franchise. When you open a McDonlad's franchise, the agreement protects you from them selling another franchise to someone else right across the street. There's some degree of geographical exclusivity included in the price. And given the headlining novelty of a coaster, that exclusivity could be nation-wide.

Also, I dont know how much this would happen in the world of roller coasters, but often when a client pays for a custom design, they're buying the rights to that design.

Now, who knows what level of detail "Time Traveler Mack spinner type model" would get down to in terms of what exactly can and cant be included in a build elsewhere, but it's virtually guaranteed there are restrictions as to what Mack can do with that design.

[Panthersfan43]

Silver dollar city is so for away from Carowinds if Carowinds wanted a spinning coasters that could have one

[Grobble]

Silver dollar city is so for away from Carowinds if Carowinds wanted a spinning coasters that could have one

Not necessarily true. Like I mentioned before when Dives were unique Busch Gardens had it some nobody in the US could contract to build one from B&M for 10 years. SDC hyped up Time Traveler and public said they spent 26M on it, the most they every spent by far. I would bet on a US exclusion for a period in the contract over just a distance, it's the 1st ever Xtreme Spinner model. SDC broke the bank on this , they would want to protect it for a period.
Also, CF would likely want the 1st US Mack Multi-launch over the 2nd Xtreme spinner(the year after), even if there wasn't a exclusivity clause.

[Coasterphreak]

Supposedly that was why KI(CP) and KD(BGW) couldn’t buy B&M coasters but Carowinds could.

Now explain Dominator At Geauga Lake.

I think that the lack of B&Ms at Paramount parks had more to do with the fact that they were broke and could only afford to buy family coasters and water slides post 9/11.

[RiDeWaRrIoR]

Also, CF would likely want the 1st US Mack Multi-launch over the 2nd Xtreme spinner(the year after), even if there wasn't a exclusivity clause

What about Manta and Slinky Dog Dash....

[RollerBee]

Supposedly that was why KI(CP) and KD(BGW) couldn’t buy B&M coasters but Carowinds could.

Now explain Dominator At Geauga Lake.

I think that the lack of B&Ms at Paramount parks had more to do with the fact that they were broke and could only afford to buy family coasters and water slides post 9/11.

Paramount Parks only ever bought 1 B&M and that is Afterburn at Carowinds.

Flight Deck At CGA was purchased pre-Paramount like the The Bat at KI.

I wouldn’t say that Paramount Park’s was broke, they were just frugal with their money. Carowinds was getting over 2 million for the 2004 and 2005 seasons and that was before Fury and Intimidator.

[coasterbruh]

Paramount Parks only ever bought 1 B&M and that is Afterburn at Carowinds.

Flight Deck At CGA was purchased pre-Paramount like the The Bat at KI.

WRONG! Paramount acquired the parks in 1992. Top Gun opened at CGA in 1993. I Mean, it's named after a paramount movie . . .

[Cameron]

I guess it depends when the purchase was made. That's close enough to be a purchase from either owner.

KECO could of easily purchased the ride.

Thinking about it now, between soil sampling, surveying, site work and grading I'm gonna assume that was a KECO purchase.