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#51212
Aye, I was about to open a thread about this, but it would seem that you beat me to it. Any who. I'm quite curious as to how exactly this incident occurred...was it a lap bar/seatbelt malfunction or was it a rider error? All I've heard so far is that the woman was ejected from her sear as the train took a sharp turn.
#51225
lanigan911 wrote:There was also THIS yesterday.

According to screamscape Cedar Point is having one problem after another with rides. Such as a cable snapping on Skyhawk and a rider being unresponsive when they arrived at the Gatekeeper station after the ride. Also, just the sound of being trapped underwater, upside down terrifies me. Not a good week for Cedar Point. :|
#51226
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Nothing has been released yet, so this is pure speculation, but I'm expecting that in the end Gerstlauer (the manufacturer of the trains) is going to be found to have made the same mistake in the design of their restraints (combined with ride operating policies inside the park) that Intamin did causing the Superman: Ride of Steel death at Six Flags New England in 2004 and the non-fatal Superman: Ride of Steel incident at Darien Lake in 1999. The video below shows what almost certainly happened at Darien Lake (and the same basic issue at Six Flags New England as well):

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The restraints are very similar to the New Texas Giant ones pictured above. While New Texas Giant does not have seat belts, it is worth nothing that both Superman coasters did have them. Again, pure speculation here (but education speculation), but I think in the end it will come down to one or two things, or a combination of the two.

1) Restraint design. For a ride with such extreme airtime, it is odd (though no one seems to have questioned it until now) that Gerstlauer designed trains with such similar restraints to the problematic Intamin ones. The ride did have sensors to make sure the bars were down a certain amount before dispatch, but maybe that still was not enough.
2) Operator error. Eyewitness accounts suggest the victim was not comfortable with the security of her restraint before the train left the station and was complaining to ride operators about it. This is a tricky situation for ride operators because this happens probably a hundred times or more every day (boy who cried wolf kind of situation), but it certainly looks like operator error could be involved. That said, these systems should be designed so idiot proof that even operator error would never allow something like this to happen.

It's going to be interesting to see what the investigation finds. It is definitely important that they find out exactly what went wrong and prevent it from happening again.

That said, it's important to put this tragedy into context given that New Texas Giant has given millions of safe rides since opening two years ago. The following is an estimate of fatalities per billion passenger hours of travel on roller coasters compared with common modes of transportation. This is probably the toughest metric you can apply to rides (since they are generally very short in duration), but even still they perform very well. Additionally, many roller coaster fatalities (but clearly not this one) are a result of intentional rider negligence and recklessness, which is generally not going to be the case with bus, rail, or air.

Motorcycle: 4840 deaths per billion hours
Bicycle: 550
Foot: 220
Car: 130
Van: 60
Water: 50
Air: 30.8
Rail: 30
Roller Coasters: 13
Bus: 11.1


By the way, since I know it's going to be brought up, a comparison of this type of seat and restraint with B&M hyper coasters should make it clear why an incident like this could never happen on a B&M ride. The reclined angle of the seats and the clamshell design of the bar on the B&M rides, combined with the fact that B&M coasters do not have forces anywhere near that of a ride like New Texas Giant mean that they do not pose this risk.
#51227
Gerstlauer is sending representatives to Texas to help Six Flags investigate exactly what happened. They won't speculate what happened but a report will be released when they have determined the cause for this tragic accident.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57594776/german-roller-coaster-maker-inspecting-six-flags-ride-where-woman-died/
#52192
The Texas Giant to Re-Open Following Implementation of
Incremental Safety Measures
ARLINGTON, Texas — September 10, 2013 — Six Flags Over Texas today announced that it has completed the investigation of the recent accident involving the Texas Giant roller coaster, with the ride train manufacturer, internal engineers and external experts ruling out any mechanical failure of the ride. Due to litigation, the company is not releasing any further information about the outcome of the investigation.

Park officials plan to re-open the Texas Giant coaster this weekend, following the addition of incremental and overlapping safety measures for the ride that include re-designed restraint-bar pads from the manufacturer and new seat belts. As with other rides in the park, guests with unique body shapes or sizes may not fit into the restraint system. The company is providing a coaster seat at the ride entrance so guests can test their fit prior to entering the ride line.

"We are heartbroken and will forever feel the pain and sadness of this tragic accident. Our sincerest condolences go out to the family and friends of Ms. Esparza," said Steve Martindale, park president of Six Flags Over Texas. "The safety of our guests and employees is our company's absolute highest priority and we try to take every reasonable precaution to eliminate the risk of accidents."

The Texas Giant has undergone extensive testing and has received approval from the state of Texas, Department of Insurance, to resume operation.

"The Texas Giant is one of my favorite rides in the park," added Martindale. "My staff, family and I are pleased to be among the first riders as we prepare to re-open the Texas Giant for our guests."

Six Flags has successfully operated regional theme parks for 52 years and takes great pride in the quality of its safety record, ride maintenance and employee training, safely delivering approximately
200 million rides each year. According to data gathered by the International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions, the industry safely provides approximately 1.7 billion rides annually in the United States and the likelihood of a person being seriously injured on a permanently-located amusement park ride is extremely remote.
#52203
More details released here, including some information about "what happened" during the ride... Not sure how they 100% know but i am guessing the person that was riding with her knew and other people on the train likely saw everything whcih would be absolutely horrific...

http://www.themeparkoverload.net/2013/0 ... ident.html


And the family has filed a lawsuite details here:

http://www.bnd.com/2013/09/10/2791074/s ... gs-in.html